Podcast Episode

Conversations w/ Your Inner Child: Celebrating our 21st Episode & Pride Month!

On most of our episodes we talk to each other or our guests about childhood. We wonder what we might tell that child. Then Alé was watching an episode of “RuPaul’s Drag Race,” where Ru had the contestants speak to a picture of themselves as a child. Betty and Alé decided to come up with a new set of questions for episodes going forward and decided to borrow this exercise from Ru. So we will have a new segment called, “Conversations with Your Inner Child.”

This is the photo Alé used to have a conversation with her inner child.   She is approx 3 years old.  She  is wearing blue sunglasses, a pink tank top, and pink polka dot shorts.  She  is seating at the kitchen table.
Alé Age 3

If Our Inner Child Could See us Now! Reflecting on our favorite Episodes

Additionally, Betty and Alé reflected on the episodes that impacted them the most. Which ones stuck on their guts, and they wished everyone would hear immediately. They agreed the episodes where guests spoke the loudest truths and were the most vulnerable were amongst the most powerful. Betty chose Episode 20, a conversation we had with Billye Jones, about how we all play a part in the perpetrating or prevention of childhood sexual abuse. She gave us insight in to ways we can interact with the children in our lives to prevent abuse. Also, we outlined this information in a blog post, here. Betty also loves Episode 4, with Aly Trudeau, where she recounts her experience with having an abortion, and why it is so important we talk about the topic as a means to relinquish shame and the taboo nature of the topic.

Alé also had two favorite episodes. She thinks Episode 18, is a great one to listen to because it highlights some of the most impactful host and guest moments on the show. If you are a new listener it’s a great place to start to see what DC&CM is all about and see which episodes you might like to binge. She also chose Episode 12, with personal trainer, holistic wellness coach, and MSW, Lisa Schlosberg. In that episode Lisa, has personally lost and kept of 150 pounds outlines her research on what it means to be truly healthy. We won’t give you the secret here, but hint hint, it’s not diet and exercise. What Lisa had to say really resonated with Alé, as someone who struggles with body acceptance and body image issues.

The People Need to Know – Episode 21 [Conversations with Your Inner Child]

The people need to know for this week include a continued endorsement of “When They See Us,” they story of the Exonerated Five, formerly known as the Central Park 5. Also, in the vein of celebrating Pride Month, an amazingly casted and produced show about the lives of the gay and trans people in the late 80’s ballroom scene, “Pose,” season 1 available on Netflix, and season two available on FX. Finally, “The Bad Kids,” a documentary on Netflix about an alternative high school in California where they believe autonomy, love, and compassion is the best model for student success.

The photo is a collage of pictures of Kevin and Alé's friendship.  Kevin, not given the opportunity to heal his traumas and make peace with his inner child, died unexpectedly in 2016.  This episode is dedicated to him.
Honoring Kevin Gaffney

The people need to know about Kevin Gaffney, for whom this episode was dedicated. Kevin was a gay man with a physical disability, who never got the opportunity to heal his inner child. Kevin was Alé’s best friend and passed away in 2016. Although, on the surface he was full of life, hilarious, and fabulously inappropriate, his struggles to find love for himself in a world that can be cruel and dismissive, caused him to lose his life. This Pride Month and every month, we use Kevin’s life to remind us be empathetic, to be welcoming, and to be absolutely fabulous.

Slide in Our DMs – Links to Our Socials

You can find Betty’s personal instagram here and Alé’s here. Follow Dream Chasers and Change Makers on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and Pinterest all under the handle dcandcm. You can email us with the address aandb@dreamchasersandchangemakers.com.

Mental Health, Podcast Episode

Ep 19: Eating Disorder and Addiction Recovery Through Storytelling With Jessica Gardner

Dream Chasers and Change Makers How Storytelling and an Israeli Psych Ward Saved my Life with Jessica Gardner.  Jess tells her story of recovery from an eating disorder and addiction.

[Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of an eating disorder with specific weights and calorie amounts mentioned and talk of suicide attempts.] Jessica Gardner felt empty and confused as an adopted child, she was diagnosed with learning disabilities and .heavily medicated. Then the bullying began. The one thing she could control was her weight, and at least the kids wouldn’t bully her about that. Jessica’s eating disorder led her to depression and anxiety, and she found herself numbing with drugs and alcohol. Her first time in inpatient rehab was not her last, however, in her first treatment center, a seed was planted. She knew if she recovered she would share her story and she has with us in this episode. The people need to know information for this episode include the book “Signals” Joel Rothschild, an instagram post asking influencers to tell the truth about their bodies from Sierra Neilson, and the Instagram account @i_weigh. You can follow Jessica Gardner on Instagram @littlechronicwarrior. If you would like to hear about Alé’s time in mental health treatment go back and listen to Episode 3, Bravely Vulnerable. You can join the DC&CM community on social media on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and Pinterest, under the handle @dcandcm.

Blog Post, Information, The People Need to Know!

Book Recommendations the People Need to Know

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On every episode of our podcast, we ask our guests what the people need to know about, whether that is a tv show, a movie, a social media account, or a book. It is common for our guests to make a book recommendation and here is a list of the books they say the people need to know! Links to buy the books provided and links to their episodes as well!

The Secret by Rhonda Byrne

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This book recommendation was made by Betty, in episode 1! We cannot tell too much because it is a secret, but this book is an in-depth explanation of the Law of Attraction and how you can have, be, and do anything you want.

The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up by Marie Kondo

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This book recommendation was made by Michael in episode 9. The book that details how to live a more clutter free minimalist life. There is a hype around the Netflix series, but the book gives an explanation on how to properly do away with things that do not bring you joy.

When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalinithi

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This book recommendation was made by Dr. Stephanie Ros in episode 11. This Pulitzer Prize finalist is an autobiography of a neurosurgical resident that ends up battling stage IV lung cancer. This page turner is about a doctor who ends up becoming the patient.

You are a Badass by Jen Sincero

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This book recommendation was made by Kristiana Tarnuzzer in episode 7. A must read for anyone who needs an extra push. This self-development book gives plenty of tips on how to stop doubting yourself and start living your best life. A quick read too!

The Girl With the Lower Back Tattoo by Amy Schumer

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This book recommendation was made by Diane in episode 14. Whether or not you are a fan of her comedy, Amy Schumer captures the attention of all her readers as she touches on topics such as gun violence, a father with a disability, a husband with a high functioning autism, and laws in this country.

Candy Girl by Diablo Cody

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This book was recommended by Betty in also in episode 14. A former stripper recounts her tale of how she wound up in the adult entertainment industry, her different eventful interactions with customers, and how she left the lifestyle.

Some Assembly Required by Arin Andrews

Nash Azarian recommended this book in episode 15. Funny, detailed, and tear jerking! This true story describes the story of a trans identified, high school student who is transitioning and confirming their true gender.

Rethinking Normal by Katie Rain Hill

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This memoir was also recommended by Nash in his episode. A nineteen year old who shared her journey on gender confirming surgery. An important story to read for anyone who knows, loves, has heard of, is acquaintances with of anyone who identifies as transgender.

Sissy: A Coming of Gender Story by Jacob Tobia

One more book recommendation from Nash! Praised on Oprah, Time, Good Morning America and more, this story is a must read. Opens all of our eyes on what it is to grow up identifying gender nonbinary.

Small Great Things by Jodi Picoult

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A third book recommended by Betty on our list! Our girl loves to read. This nonfiction tale follows the story of a black nurse who tried to revive a suffocating infant, and wasn’t successful in her attempts to do CPR. The twist is that the newborn patient had a very specific note on his file saying that no black hospital workers were to attend to this patient.

Outliers: The Story of Success by Malcom Gladwell

Outliers by Malcom Gladwell

Recommended by Ryan in episode 16! Ever wondered why high achieving people are looked at differently? Represented differently? Speak differently? Read this book and find out how to become one of those individuals. Spoiler: it’s not about what they do or how they act, but where they came from.

Maybe You Never Cry Again by Bernie Mac

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One more book recommendation from our guest, Ryan! Bernie Mac takes us through the tale of how she discovered at just five years old that he knew he was going to be a comedian. A true story of someone who chased their dreams and found success!

White Envelopes by Marlee Garza

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Our final recommendation was written by Marlee Garza, featured on episode 17! Marlee is a former escort and sex worker. After applying to numerous jobs and not being able to find work, she found work in a nonconventional way. She tells her stories of certain customers, how much money she was making, and how she left the lifestyle.

Podcast Episode

Ep 18: The Influence of Brené Brown on DC&CM – A Clip Show!

Title: A look back at our episode through the lens of Brené Brown's research.  A clip show featuring our  brave and vulnerable guests from  the dream chasers and change makers podcast.

This month Alé graduated NYU with her MSW. Our girl has mentioned Brené Brown about a million times, everyone’s favorite celebrity social worker. In this episode, we look back at past episodes and see how your hosts and our guests have shared on topics related to Dr. Brown’s social work research, such as shame, vulnerability, being brave with your life, and the power of connection and true belonging. We have talked to people from all walks of life including a filmmaker, a trans identified true crime writer, a former sex worker, a woman who had an abortion, a young lady who left her isolated and fundamentalist Catholic home, and many other dream chasers and change makers. We have found that our stories prove we are all connected and therefore belong to each other. If you aren’t a Brené Brown fan yet, we hope you will be after the episode! Follow DC&CM on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook all under the handle @dcandcm.

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Ep 17: I am the CEO of my Vagina w/ Former Sex Worker, Marlee Garza

How sex work saved my life.  Marlee Garza gets vulnerable on the podcast and opens up about her experience as an escort.   Image of Marlee smiling with the dream chasers and change makers logo.

[Content Warning: Sexual Abuse, Explicit conversation around Sex] Marlee Garza, a single mother of three found herself on the verge of homelessness. She found sex work as way to make end meets for her family, and marketed herself as a MILF seductress named Sandhal. People need to know for this episode include two shows on Freeform, Pretty Little Liars: The Perfectionists and Siren, a show on Netflix called “On my Block,” and two podcasts called “Girls on Porn,” and “The Oldest Profession.” You can buy Marlee’s book “White Envelopes,” on Amazon. You can find her on Facebook and Instagram and support her art on Red Bubble, her stuff is super cute, so check it out! Follow DC&CM on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter, all under the handle @dcandcm.

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Ep 15: Don’t Let the Bastards Get You Down w/ Nash Azarian

Title: An Interview with Nash Azarian: Trans and thriving.  Nash gets brave and vulnerable with us as he talks about life before and after coming out as transgender.  Image of Nash, a bearded man with his hand in his brown hair.

Content Warning: This episode does briefly mention a suicide attempt and intimate partner violence. Nash Azarian began his truest and most beautiful life six years ago when he began identifying as a transgender man and began to medically transition. Before that he lived a life identifying and presenting as a butch lesbian, and being both bullied and profiled for it. That led him to living a life where he was constantly victimized, and in turn became and angry standoffish person, so far from the warm person he truly is. Nash opens up about relationships, transitioning and complications that came along with it and so much more in this vulnerable and deep diving episode. The people need to know for this episode include novels, “Some Assembly Required,” by Arin Andrews, “Rethinking Normal,” by Katie Hill, “Sissy: A Coming-of-Gender Story,” by Jacob Tobia, “Small Great Things,” by Jodi Picoult, and the Transitional Wisdom Podcast. You can find Nash on Instagram @nashazarian. Additionally, follow Dream Chasers and Change Makers on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Pinterest, all under the handle @dcandcm.

Mental Health, Podcast Episode

Ep 14: Diagnosing Diane w/ Child Life Specialist Diane Morales

Child life specialist, Diane Morales spends her time helping young patients through the process of being in the hospital. She watches patient after patient being assessed, treated, and discharged. It was frustrating to her when she woke up one day with a mysterious and dull neck pain. No big deal though, until it wouldn’t go away, for years. Thus leading Diane into a journey of trying to deal with this pain, causing her to look into painful moments in her life, when she began to believe the pain could be somatic. Diane recounts the tragic death of two friends and one of the scariest days of her life. The people need to know for this episode include, The Girl With the Lower Back Tattoo, by Amy Schumer, Oprah’s Super Soul Conversation with Amy Schumer, and Candy Girl, by Diablo Cody. You can follow Diane on Instagram @adventuresinchildlife or check out her blog at adventuresinchildlife.com. Get involved with DC&CM community on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, under the handle @dcandcm.

Manifest Your Best Life, Mental Health, Podcast Episode

Lisa Schlosberg: The Researched Based Secret to Wellness [12]

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Lisa Schlosberg weighed over 300 pounds at 17 years old. Since then she’s maintained a weight loss of 150 pounds, but her story and her message is not what you’d think. Lisa knew she deserved a better life, and diets were thrusting her into disordered eating. She never believed she had a lack of will power. She began to research about diets and weight loss, and the secret key to it all is not what what you’d expect. Lisa is now a certified health and wellness coach, personal trainer, and soon to be social worker.

Now, The People Need to Know for this week: Online Meditation Course By Emily Fletcher. Also, “You are a Badass” by Jen Sincero. Finally, Brené Brown’s video on empathy. You can follow Lisa Schlosberg on instagram @schlosfit. You can follow Dream Chasers and Change Makers on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and Pinterest, all under the handle @dcandcm. If you’d like to hear more stories about eating disorders and recovery please check out Jess’ story in Episode 19.

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Stephanie Ros, OB/GYN A Better Sex Talk for You and Your Kids! [11]

Text: Episode 11: How to Have Better Sex Talks with Your Kids!  A Conversation with OB/GYN Dr. Ros.  www.dreamchasersandchangemakers.com.  A photo of Stephanie Ros is located at the left atop a purple background.

The lack of quality in the sex talk the majority of people get has left so many women seeing sex as function, when at its core, it’s meant to be fun. In this episode, Dr. Stephanie Ros delves into her journey with maternal fetal medicine, and also provides information about pleasurable sex, myths around pregnancy and birth, and how to educate young people about sex. This is not your mother’s sex talk.

Now, The people need to know for this week include: A novel called, “When Breath Becomes Air,” by Paul Kalinithi. Also, the Gypsy Rose Blanchard story, you can learn all about it by watching, “Mommy Dead and Dearest” on HBO, follow it by diving into, “The Act” on Hulu. Lastly, the board game, “Ticket to Ride.” If you’d like to follow Stephanie Ros, check out her Instagram. You can follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Pinterest at @dcandcm. You can also email us using our connect page! For additional information on how to keep your children safe from sexual abuse please listen to Episode 20.

Blog Post, The People Need to Know!, Written by Alé

Podcast Recommendation? Have Six!

Need a podcast recommendation that will inspire, uplift or make you laugh?
6 Podcast Recommendations: to uplift, inspire, or make you laugh.  Where Should We Begin, Conversations with People who Hate Me, Oprah's Super Soul Sunday, My Favorite Murder, Why Won't you Date me, and Transitional Wisdom

Looking for a podcast recommendation? There are 18 million podcasts currently available to stream! If you are just getting started out listening to podcasts, or are looking for something new to add to your library, read on. Having a three hour daily commute has given me the time to listen to a lot of podcasts. This collection of six podcasts will uplift and inspire you, or just make you laugh out loud. If you are enjoying the Dream Chasers and Change Makers Podcast, you’ll find another show you love here! (If you haven’t heard our show, stop reading and go listen!) Click any of the titles to get a direct link to my podcast recommendations.

1. Where Should We Begin: With Esther Perel

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A Podcast for when you want a peek into the lives of others.

Esther Perel invites listeners into her office as she provides couples’ therapy to her clients. I love being a fly on the wall in other people’s therapy sessions! The clients reveal the strains in their relationships, ranging from infidelity, to substance use, to abuse. Esther’s skillful and direct approach, and her French accent make the show both educational (for a budding therapist like me) and entertaining.

2. Conversations with People Who Hate Me

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A podcast for when you want to hear a civil discussion with people who fundamentally disagree.

Something I am working on is open communication with people who think and believe differently than I do. That is why I love CWPHM. Dylan Marron started this podcast interviewing people who had sent him cruel and hateful messages and comments online. Now he often connects guests who have received online hate to their haters. The conversations are thoughtful and everyone is treated with respect and dignity. The show reminds us that, “There is a human on the other side of the screen.” Dylan’s approach to this topic is refreshing and fills me with hope!

3. Oprah’s Super Soul Conversations

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A podcast for when you want to go deep and feed your soul.

I mean, obviously if it’s Oprah, it’s got to be good. At Dream Chasers and Change Makers, our whole “thing” is deep, brave, vulnerable conversations. Super Soul Conversations is exactly that, with some of the world’s brightest minds and spiritual teachers. This podcast goes deep! Oprah interviews guests about topics like spirituality, the afterlife, the human condition, and life’s hardest lessons.

4. My Favorite Murder

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A podcast for you’re in the mood for murder with a side of fun!

MFM is a true crime/comedy podcast, hosted by the hilarious and talented Georgia Hardstark and Karen Kilgariff. Their comedic timing, impeccable storytelling skills, and chemistry makes this show a treat. Not only do they recount the stories of infamous murders, the hosts give us a glimpse into their lives, and are candid about their mental health battles. They are very conscious of respecting victims and tear down perpetrators in side-splitting ways. Their fandom is #goals. The My Favorite Murder community is enormous. Join in on the fun by subscribing to the fan cult or one of the hundreds of Facebook groups.

5. Why Won’t You Date Me?

Podcast Recommendation: Why Won't you Date Me?  With Nicole Byer.  A cartoon version of Nicole Byer with her arms stretched out, signaling "Why?"
A podcast for when you can’t figure out why the hell you’re so single, or need a belly laugh!

You know her, you love her, she is Nicole Byer, host of Netflix’s Nailed It! In her NSFW podcast she asks the question, “Why am I so single even though I will [insert wild sexual act here.]” Nicole has guests talk about their dating and sex lives, and has them review her multiple dating profiles. I have to say, almost nothing makes me laugh as hard as this delightful podcast. Not only does she make me pee my pants in laughter, she is all about embracing her body, sexuality, and bold personality. Even the ads are ridiculously funny. 10 out 10 recommend for podcast recommendation!

6. Transitional Wisdom

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A podcast for when you want to learn what life is like for those in the trans* community!

We love supporting our friends and independently produced podcasts like ours! I proudly make this podcast recommendation. Hosts Nash and C talk all things trans*, including medical transitioning, dating while transgender, allyship, and more. If you are part of the LGBTQ+ community, love someone who is, or want to learn more about the life experiences of those in the trans* community. They also feature captivating interview from high profile people in the trans* community, parents of trans* children, and supporters of the LGBTQ. No matter how you identify, this podcast has something for you.

Hope you podcast recommendation that you love! What would add to our list? Let us know in the comments!

Published by Alé Cardinalle |LMSW Candidate NYU 19’| Podcast Enthusiast

Podcast Episode

Ep 4: What’s a Day Maker & Can I be One? w/ Aly Trudeau

Aly, known in episode 3 as Betty’s hero, talks about making a decision in her teens that she feared could and end a friendship but wound up really saving a life. Aly stood firm in her decision then, and later in life she stood firm making another difficult decision, in taking charge of her own life. Aly shares her experience of leaving a toxic relationship and terminating a pregnancy. Things of the week in this episode include Betty’s recommendation to watch the show Parenthood, and Aly suggests a podcast called, “The Abortion Diaries.”

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Ep 1: My Imaginary BFF, Oprah

In our first episode meet the hosts of Dream Chasers and Change Makers! We will set our intentions for the podcast, share what makes us tick and what breaks our heart. Don’t forget to comment what and leave a review tell us what change making work you are doing in your life and we will read it next time. (Social Media Accounts we love: @therealalexandrabillings and @kimamani)

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So excited to start this journey!

Betty and I are in YouTube University’s podcasting bootcamp. We are in the process of learning the ropes to bring you a high-quality and captivating podcast. You will hear from extraordinary people as they share their stories of the windy roads it took to chase their dreams and make change in their lives and the lives of countless others. If you aren’t already, please make sure to follow us on Instagram.