Kelley Fraga was afraid that if she shut her eyes and went to sleep her newborn would die. She went sometime without being able to recognize her irrational thoughts as postpartum depression and anxiety. In this episode, we discuss Kelley’s experience in her fourth trimester, the importance of a support system, mom-shaming, and the lack of access of mental health care for new moms and otherwise. If you or someone you know is struggling during postpartum, or what Kelley refers to as, “the fourth trimester” please check out Postpartum Support International, for resources. The People Need to Know for this episode include: two instagram pages, called 4th Trimester Bodies Project, and Ruby’s Rainbow, Ellen Page’s Viceland docuseries, Gaycation, and Pen15 on Hulu. You can follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Pinterest and Twitter, all with the handle @dcandcm. The biggest way you can support us is by leaving a review, if you can, on your podcast app and tell a friend about us!